Well my personal choice for a CQC weapon is a crowbar. It's light and easy to carry. It has multiple uses and when was the last time anyone has broken one!

Ideally for a long range weapon, I would choose a crossbow. They only require man power, they are quite accurate and their ammo is also reusable if you can get it. Plus they are quiet and don't attract attention like an automatic gun.

If i had the choice o any weapon i would choose a sword because they are super sharp and they are great for slicing and stabbing and what not and for a long range weapon i would choose a crossbow they're easy to use and reliable. I', also going to throw into the mix i would also carry throwing knives with me i know how to throw them and i have a natural talent for them.

I would also check up north in fact i would go up there if a zombie appocolypse happened Nunavut in particular. its super secluded quite a few of the communities are on islands and its completely self staining up there.

i would have to make sure i make it on an early flight though. If i cant make it up there i would hold off where ever i can i guess ideally roofs of large apt complexes or malls

Weapon of choice: Lightsaber (you never stated that it had to be an existing weapon :P)

Destination: After sending a few Dragon capsules filled with food and survival products (including a shitload of games) into space i'd head up to the ISS to watch you all run up North trying to survive.

In conclusion, i'd be the sole survivor (unless i bring a few ladies with me...sorry guys but i got no space for a sausagefest where i'm going at :P) of humanity. So, you lose and i win. LOL

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How do we deal with a mob of fast moving zombies? This is generally what will kill everyone.

Fast movers are by far the worst threat when it comes to zombies.

They have the speed and strength of a regular ol' human, but they also feel no pain and will continue to batter at whatever reinforcements you've managed to put between you and them until they've either got you or they're distracted by something else.

That's no good.

Now, fast movers (herein referred to as FM(s)) wouldn't be as bad in smaller situations. Say, a small break out.. but in an apocalypse scenario.. gah. Heading north would still be a good option, but only if you're dealing with a zombie type that freezes.

The classic/Max Brooks zombie comes together like this:

To kill it, must destroy the brain.
It has no blood flow or working organs ('cept the brain) therefore it freezes well.
It has an insatiable hunger for flesh, even though it doesn't digest.
Contamination is made through bites.
It can hear, though no one knows how.
It can moan. Which attracts other zombies.

These are the basic guidelines I like to use when talking about the possibility of a zombie infestation.

For those of you who read this and think 'You guys are silly..' the reason people really like to talk about this kind of thing is because it's a fun topic that can help prepare you for any real world disaster or emergency situation.

Riots/Floods/Famine/Storms etc.

That's why it's fun. Learning is FUN!

I will contribute more later.

Am I allowed to have a solar-powered electric motorcycle? If so, that, a larger hunting knife of some sort. I'd just ride and kill. :D Plus, since it's electric, it'd be nearly silent. ;)

@DjDatz

I suppose you can have anything you want if you have access to it.

Basically the best transportation you can have for longevity and mobility is a bicycle.

The downside is that you're exposed to whatever is out there and any tumble could lead to injury which in turn can lead to infection, of the sickness variety, not the zombie variety.

Wear a helmet!

The other bonus to using a mode of transportation that requires you to power it is you're getting exercise.

In other news, today I'd like to talk to you all about water.

Besides the air we breathe, water has got to be one of the top things that people in modernized countries take for granted.

Yet without it, we're toast in a matter of days.

If you're in a 'the majority of water is contaminated with such and such' situation, well, chances are the majority of us are going to be thoroughly boned. Such is life.

But, if you're in a situation where you're in a brown/black out for more than a week but less than a month, here are some things to take note of.

Having a stockpile of water is good, obviously. Stock piling water during a crisis is not.

Be prepared!

If something is going to happen quickly that you can assume will negate your water supply. Fill everything you've got as quickly as you can.

Water bottles, jugs, bathtubs, sinks etc. etc.

Having a rain barrel is a great way to have a good stockpile and while you may not want to drink it (right away) it can be extremely handy when you want to say, flush a toilet!

Take note that filling a container that previously held a source of food can be dangerous as it may have bacteria and the like and being sick in an emergency is something that no one wants.

Obviously that depends on how badly you need water though, as survival instinct kicks in you'll drink anything.

Knowing some basic details about where your water is supplied from can also be quite handy.

In my area, our water comes from Lake Huron. With a little poking around I found out that the treatment plant has about 10 employees and that during an electrical outage they can still supply water to London and the surrounding area for about 7-10 days before their generators that hold 80,000 litres need to be refilled with fuel.

That's a lot of fuel!

That's assuming that those employees made it to work, though. Variables, variables!

Fuck that up-close-and-personal shit. I'm grabbing a monster truck. Maybe a semi truck. Something humungous that they can't reach me in. Put a flamethrower on it too so I can ignite their asses on theway.

I notice everyone thinks offensively but doesn't give too much space for defense. A crowbar is kind of nice but how do you block with it? If you get rushed by a horde (which you will) what are you going to do when you're tired of running?

That's why my cqc kit would be a machete and a police tactical shield (half size, not the full ankle-to face, that would be too heavy and cumbersome.) Thanks to the huge usable length of a machete coupled with its weight and ability to amputate rather easily, and the ability to literally shrug off attackers with the shield while keeping your squishy face and neck covered, you're good to go.

An extremely sharped sword, an AA-12. Maybe a bow & arrows. I don't think I'd have the strength to reload a crossbow.

Rajio said:

you guys should join the zombie research society. we need 2 more people in toronto to join up and let me know - we're looking to start a local chapter of the society and we're just 2 members short.

message me for more details.

@Rajio I'm interested in more details about this not-so-secret society.

WhorrorLoLz said:

lolz Well, in the movies/shows it always looks like they have a hard time pulling the thing back. There always seems to be one person who can't do it either.

A bow is generally much harder to draw and keep steady, once you draw a crossbow it stays back, you dont have to hold it and can maintain a much steadier aim easily. Another downside to a bow is keeping the arrow knocked (not an easy task on some bows). You'd probably end up having to run away each time you tried firing a bow at a zombie where with a crossbow you could always get a shot off easily and reload when safe. I haven't done much archery myself, but using a crossbow is MUCH easier (in my experience anyway) than a bow are it seems much more reliable for use with somebody who has no training in either weapon.

If a kid can reload one, I think you can too :P

A standard bow and arrow, chances are you would never hit a thing. Especially if that thing is shambling towards you and you're jacked up on both fear and adrenaline.

Unless you've had some serious practice, you're toast.

A crossbow is easy to fire and easy to aim, as long as you're used to actually aiming something in real life but they are slow to reload.

A crossbow is definitely an effective weapon, especially where stealth is concerned, but it's basically a single target at a time weapon.

Any sort of group coming at you? You'd better have a back up.

In my eyes, the ultimate zombie weapon would a silenced .22.

The only problem is, not enough punch. You're never guaranteed full skull penetration with such a small round.

But you wanna hear how quiet they are?

At 00:57 is the first silenced shot.

Some sort of spear would be excellent against zombies. Especially if it's sturdy and sharp.

You just jab, jab, jab. In the face. Got good range for close encounter skirmishes, plus you can sweep the leg and take 'em down to buy yourself some time.

Nice call.

I've always day dreamed of a brass knuckle type weapon with a long spike on it.

Hell, even a grip that looked like.. umm..

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That's it pointing to the right. The vertical line being the part you grab with your fist, the long horizontal piece being a spike.

Basically a baling hook with a spike on it instead of a hook!

I would imagine that with a spike would be more effective in a zombie scenario.. but as you say, it's not really an offensive weapon unless you're just dealing with one or two.. because you're exposed.

Therein lies the biggest factor when dealing with a zombie, if to truly end 'em you have to hit the brain.

I hope that World War Z movie gets made. The Battle of Yonkers was an excellent showcase of how useless the majority of military might would be useless against zombies.

Would be fun to use a sledgehammer on single slow ones.

I guess since they'd be so newly infected that their skulls would be pretty in-tact still. Unless we're talking about the ones that rise from the graves, then the less-effective weapons would probably work on 'em 'cause their skulls would be soft.

I think someone mentioned a steel bat. That'd be a good weapon. Maybe stick a big nail on the end but then there's risk of it getting lodged in their head.

Also, I've always thought that, thinking realistically (as realistically as you can get when takling about zombies), if they were rotting corpses then their bone structure would be weak as fuck, so it wouldn't make sense for them to be strong/swim/run. Again though, that applies probably more to the "rise from the grave" types.

@Dino

Yeah, if they're rotting away, busting the head gets a lot easier.

@Raj

They cause stabbing wounds if you can find a place to stab and if you're going for a headshot with a knife, chances are it would glance off the skull. It takes a fair bit of pressure to get through bone... I'd imagine.

@Whorror

You'd be a snack in a can!

When thinking about defensive clothing, one of the most important things to keep in mind is mobility. Especially if you're dealing with a shambling zombie.

A fast walk can outpace them, so being able to maintain that speed is paramount.

A good leather jacket would provide a decent barrier between you and zombie teeth. Biting through thick leather ain't easy.

But, if they didn't get through the leather, you'd still be damaged just from the pressure alone. Better than infected, yes, still not perfect though.

A leather set of armor would be excellent for both mobility and protection but this is something that you'd need to have made/found before hand.

Unless you know something about skinning and tanning a cow.

Anyone know if you can just buy strips of leather somewhere? Even a thin strip wrapped neatly around forearms and legs and then covered by a thick layer of clothing, say, leather pants/jacket would pretty much solve the problem for most bites.

This is obviously in the case of dealing with one or two at a time, again, 'cause if you get dogpiled.. it doesn't matter what you're wearing. They're on you until something else takes them away or you get saved.

@Doos You want a good shovel. And yes, World War Z feature film is getting made.

@Nebelleron Katara's are cool weapons and were designed to penetrate chain mail. In a zombie apocalypse though they'd leave you too exposed as others have mentioned. They're also illegal in Canada and wouldn't be readily available.

Law212 said:

I think a zombie apocalypse would be boring. None of your shows would be on. No viddeo games to play...... everyones all scared and trying to survive....

then at that point, even if you survive , what will you do? humans will die out anyway

Depends on how things end and if you survive alone.

Doos said:

I dunno about the shovel, Jux. In a pinch, yeah. But I've broken enough shovels to know that they wouldn't last all that long being used to smash skulls.

If you rigged one up out of solid metal, yes, but nothing you can get at a hardware store would last all that long.

You're not looking to smash the skull, you want to thrust forward and impact between the eyes, forcing skull into their brain. You'd use the shovel as a thrusting weapon, somewhat like a spear.

Law212 said:

Would you people want to travel in a group , a small group (2 or 3 of you) or alone?

Small group, maybe half a dozen people.

@Jux Understood, I'm still telling you that it's not going to last long.

Source: Me as a laborer with shovels for years.

It's just a metal blade with a pin in some wood. That wood/pin is the weak part and also the part that takes the most beating when using it.

If you were to forge a solid piece of steel into a shovel shape, you'd do well.. but you know, that takes time.

The added weight would be an adjustment, but nothing someone couldn't get used to.

@Law I'd want a group, but small.. 6 peopleish. All depends though if you're fortifying or travelling.

Doos said:

@Jux Understood, I'm still telling you that it's not going to last long.

Source: Me as a laborer with shovels for years.

That's why you carry a little spade for close in work and as back up!

Law212 said:

Sounds like you should get into gardening Juxt!
I would want some kind of rifle with lots of ammo, and since ammo runs out making a gun useless, I would scanvenge anywhere to find more ammo and any other guns. Face it guns would be handy.

for close up zombie killing action , mabe a hatchet. Those can crack skulls

Ha, if it's green and I touch it it withers and dies.

Guns would be handy, but I'd be worried about them jamming or running out of ammo at the wrong moment.

I'd want a gun. Small caliber rifle. Semi-auto. One pull, one bullet.

Yeah, you'd have to find ammo.. but you gotta find a lot of stuff.

In the perfect world of armaments I'd want a silenced rifle, a crossbow, a spear and the baling hook/spear dealio.

A shotgun for the final stand.